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“THESE DOCUMENTS CAN BE AMENDED.”

That’s ALL TONY WAS SAYING (or trying to say) throughout this movie.

The Avengers were being railroaded by Ross – it was either sign or “retire” (meaning you’re out of business or else you’re in prison). There WAS NO ALTERNATIVE.  They would have been given the proper amount of time (so they couldn’t later sue) to read through and meet with legal counsel about the Accords, but they would have had to sign them.

But Tony desperately believes that elected officials don’t last, that a lot can happen as politics change and shift, and that DOCUMENTS CAN BE AMENDED.  He may have been mistaken as far as Thaddeus Ross goes – because you can only play along with sharks so far before you get bitten – but both Tony and Steve make huge mistakes in this movie, and that was probably Tony’s worst one.

But what other choice does he have?  Sign the Accords – or the Avengers are shut down. Sign the Accords – or you’ll all “retire.” Sign them, or watch all your friends go to jail. And remember, Tony knows something worse is coming to threaten the Earth – something that the Avengers HAVE to be together to face.

Yet Steve won’t listen – he’s the major force pulling the Avengers apart, and Tony can’t understand this at all. Why can’t he see that Steve’s way – rebelling, refusing to sign, is the way to death or imprisonment for half of their team, if not all of them? They’re SO CLOSE here, and yet Steve takes advantage of any excuse not to talk, not to really sit down and TALK THIS OUT with Tony. His annoyance about Wanda being “kept in her room” is his excuse here to walk out and not talk.  Let’s see: Tony keeping a foreign national who just killed 11 people (which is on YOU and your leadership, Steve, since it was your mission…) SAFE in a SAFEHOUSE – versus THE ENTIRE TEAM being split up and in danger of their lives?  I’d take Tony’s side here any time.

As you can tell, I’m super-annoyed with Steve’s bullheadedness and refusal to see the big picture throughout this movie. Rebelling and putting all your teammates in danger is not a rational response.

Even the slightest hint of Steve considering Tony’s offer and argument: “there would have to be safeguards” and DO YOU SEE HOW FAST TONY’S POSTURE CHANGES?!?!? Like seriously he moves so quickly from closed off to open and receptive it’s not even funny.
All Tony needed was for Steve to listen at least a little bit. And THAT was the tragedy.

I think about this scene all the time.
Steve was going to sign the Accords. He was going to sign them.
He grabbed the pen and he only stopped when he found out that Tony had Wanda at the base. That’s when he threw a fit and then the whole fiasco with Bucky being triggered into the Winter Soldier happened and we never revisited this scene.
So it makes me so fucking pissed when people say that Steve was 100% against the Accords and would never have signed them.
THIS SCENE EXISTS IN MCU CANON THAT THE STAR SPANGLED LITTLE SHIT WAS GOING TO SIGN THEM.
He didn’t because he didn’t like how Tony had Wanda at the base! AND THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACCORDS.
Steve Rogers out here blaming Tony at the airport for ‘tearing them apart’ when his two-faced ass was going to sign the Accords and then blames Tony and the Accords for his bullshit.
I’m bitter.

Ya’ll I just re-found this post and I’m still 100% BITTER

Nah. Steve remembered what happened with SHIELD.

Steve

doesn’t

trust governments.

Steve

doesn’t

trust politicians.

Steve doesn’t trust people who keep other people locked up because they are different. 

Reminds Steve of nazis. Steve hates nazis.

Heres some of the known parts of the accord.

The currently known regulations established by the Sokovia Accords include:

• The Avengers will no longer be a private organization and will operate under the supervision of the United Nations.
• Any enhanced individuals who agree to sign must register with the United Nations and provide biometric data such as fingerprints and DNA samples.
• Any enhanced individuals who do not sign will not be allowed to participate in any national or international conflict nor may participate in missions undertaken by the Avengers, S.H.I.E.L.D., or any other intelligence organization.
• Enhanced individuals, including members of the Avengers and S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, will no longer have the authorization to cross international boundaries at any time they wish.
• If an enhanced individual takes unauthorized action or obstructs the actions of those acting in accordance with the Accords, they will be arrested.
• All enhanced individuals with innate powers who agree to sign the Accords must wear tracking bracelets at all times.
• The creation of any and all artificial intelligence is strictly prohibited.

• Those with innate powers must submit to a power analysis, which will categorize their threat level and determine potential health risks.

• They must be given clearance by either a nation’s government or the United Nations subcommittee before taking any action in that country, either on their own or as a part of an organization.

• Enhanced individuals who break the law, violate the Accords or are otherwise deemed to be a threat to the general public may be detained indefinitely without trial.

• Enhanced individuals who break the law, violate the Accords or are otherwise deemed to be a threat to the general public may be detained indefinitely without trial.

Wanda is already locked up.

Steve sees where this is fuckin going.

Steve was right. Fuck the accords.

And remember, Steve’s last encounter with a governmental agency trying to create massive regulations/peacekeeping was Project Insight. You know, the one that was created by Hydra pretending to be SHIELD? The one that nearly killed a lot of people? Steve’s right to be cautious about this, since they’re basically being railroaded into it at this point.