so is being spoken to like you understand nothing beyond things like hair and makeup and like you’re some kind of infant who isn’t even allowed opinions but go off i guess
Did I misread the op or something? Cause it appears to say “when [huge category of people] do [broad category of behavior]” to me
Yeah it’s literally about something only women and afab people experience. It’s about the experience of being spoken to like your stupid and understand nothing and can’t possibly have an opinion. It’s about women understanding how the others feel when they witness this happening or when they are both experiencing it. It’s about the fact that being born female in this society means being mistreated and seen as lesser by those not born female. It’s about the solidarity and understanding between women because all of them have gone through this at least once. It’s literally battling the dehumanising experience of being spoken to like you know less than nothing. But go ahead and cry about the fact that women not liking to be treated like dirt is dehumanising. After all, we should all just shut up and put up with oppression right? Or you’ll just call us evil bitches, or cold sluts. Women have free thought and intelligence and deserve to be treated as such, but go off i guess.
Yes, being spoken to like you’re stupid is dehumanizing. But I’m sure non-white men, at least, have experienced this. Also, people tend to think disabled people must all be treated like they’re small children or idiots and often talk to and about them in dehumanizing ways. This is not a woman only thing
This response is very clearly Whataboutism. there are posts and discussions for all of the above groups you mentioned, but they are not this post. are your concerns and points valid? yes. but this is not the place to discuss those.
I’m not discussing them, I’m pointing out that “something only women and afab people experience” is wrong. That’s all. The person I replied to made what I thought was an incorrect generalization, I pointed out that other, non afab people go through the same experience.
the irony of your comments is that they are exactly why the post exists. you assume exaggerations are only literal, and do not listen to what the post is about. you read it, yes, but you don’t listen. you are demonstrating that your thoughts are more “okay how do i try to counter this post?” than “how do i tackle this problem?” you are more focused on debating than the topic.
Nice motte and bailey. We all know damn well what the post is supposed to be about; I for one (and my take is complementary to, but not the same, as lookashiny’s) am critiquing the fact that the words used in the post describe a more specific thing than is indicated by the wording, by design. Condescending behavior is a real phenomenon and it’s bad; you still don’t get to use “men talking” as shorthand for it, sorry.
you’d think with all these mental gymnastics you’d be adam rippon, but no, you’re just a three year old trying to do a somersault and falling flat on your face instead
I’m sorry you appear to be struggling to follow this conversation, I can break it down for you more if necessary
Here let me point out something to you:
you and your response are literally the prime example of this post. talking down at me like im dumb and understand nothing. next time dont screw yourself over with your own comment
me: *says a thing that’s not that complicated* you: why??? are you making this so complicated??? I’m obviously right and you have to do mental gymnastics to disagree me: my argument was not actually complicated you: why are you *condescending* to me?
hey word of advice: dont paraphrase the message of whomever you are debating. you are too involved and biased to do it properly and objectively. i can clearly see you are to focused on defending yourself from percieved threats to have any self awareness regarding your posts. again, you are treating me as dumb and lesser, proving the main point of the whole post
You’re welcome to paraphrase me, we can get a nice little dialectic going
>proving the main point of the whole post
wow there sure are a whole lot of competing One True Arcane Meanings of the OP floating around, huh
It seems to me like cooldadtony thinks your a man, thus you’re reenacting the behavior OP hates. Which, IDK why.
I know it’s groovy
Vidocq avatar strikes again?
Oh, is that who he is? He looks cool.
it is! It’s a frame from this comic:
I’ve had people think it’s both Vautrin and Javert, but it’s the OG himself
I went ahead and put the translation on the original comic, just because it’s good practice for me as I work on my own comics and art. It forces me to study how professional artists do their lettering and how they structure their text to fit with the action. I feel like I’m learning something, at least. Someday I aspire to pack as much cuteness into a page as Sakurai-sensei does. PLEASE SUPPORT THE ORIGINAL ARTIST ON TWITTER AND PIXIV.